Margaritaville

[stolarskin]

Have played around with
the intro, and I'll
try and post
what I have so far.
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?
D-A-G is one progression,
but I'm not hearing it,
or maybe I'm not strumming it correctly
or something !

[ed s]

Post by stolarskin
Have played around with
the intro, and I'll
try and post
what I have so far.
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?
D-A-G is one progression,
but I'm not hearing it,
or maybe I'm not strumming it correctly
or something !

we used to do a Punk version
C G F- whatever...

[Thomas]

Post by stolarskin
Have played around with
the intro, and I'll
try and post
what I have so far.
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?
D-A-G is one progression,
but I'm not hearing it,
or maybe I'm not strumming it correctly
or something !

Play around with some add or suspend chords and you may like it better.

Thomas

[Lumpy]

Post by stolarskin
Have played around with
the intro, and I'll
try and post
what I have so far.
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?
D-A-G is one progression,
but I'm not hearing it,
or maybe I'm not strumming it correctly
or something !

There are only three chords in Margie'ville.
D G A (I IV V) will work fine. The three chords
don't always fall in that order.

Start on D. Play it while you sing the song.
When you sense it's time to change chords, change
to one of the other two chords. If it doesn't sound
right, then the answer is "it's the OTHER chord".

While you're trying to figure out WHICH chords to
play, don't add difficulty by injecting things like
"strum patterns". Just get the chord changes figured out.

The entire VERSE of the song is two chords, the I and V.

The chorus is mostly IV V I.

Get these two hook lines figured out...

***
V I
It's my own damn fault
***
IV V I
Wastin' a-way again in Marga-ritaville
***

Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com

[Sean]

Post by Lumpy
Start on D. Play it while you sing the song.
When you sense it's time to change chords, change
to one of the other two chords. If it doesn't sound
right, then the answer is "it's the OTHER chord".

Brilliant advice. No, I'm not being sarcastic.

[Rufus]

Post by Sean

Post by Lumpy
Start on D. Play it while you sing the song.
When you sense it's time to change chords, change
to one of the other two chords. If it doesn't sound
right, then the answer is "it's the OTHER chord".

Brilliant advice. No, I'm not being sarcastic.

...I think that happens even independent of advise...;)

[stolarskin]

Post by Lumpy

Post by stolarskin
Have played around with
the intro, and I'll
try and post
what I have so far.
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?
D-A-G is one progression,
but I'm not hearing it,
or maybe I'm not strumming it correctly
or something !

There are only three chords in Margie'ville.
D G A (I IV V) will work fine. The three chords
don't always fall in that order.
Start on D. Play it while you sing the song.
When you sense it's time to change chords, change
to one of the other two chords. If it doesn't sound
right, then the answer is "it's the OTHER chord".
While you're trying to figure out WHICH chords to
play, don't add difficulty by injecting things like
"strum patterns". Just get the chord changes figured out.
The entire VERSE of the song is two chords, the I and V.
The chorus is mostly IV V I.
Get these two hook lines figured out...
***
V I
It's my own damn fault
***
IV V I
Wastin' a-way again in Marga-ritaville
***
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com

Chord changes plus trying to sing
the damn thing !
Easy to get mixed up !
Still havin to look at the words written
down unfortunately.

[Lumpy]

Post by stolarskin
Chord changes plus trying to sing
the damn thing !
Easy to get mixed up !
Still havin to look at the words written
down unfortunately.

Take smaller bites. Don't try and learn two
things at once. Work on the chords while you
disregard the lyrics. When working on the lyrics,
don't worry about missed chords. Bring them all
together later.

Use printed lyrics to HELP you remember.
Example, if you had a card that read -

"Some people say, that....."
you'd probably know the next few words.

I'm pretty sure you know the line
"Wastin ..."

You play it in C. Use the example I posted with
I IV V and use the I IV V chords in C - C F G.

Don't let lyrics hold you hostage. Learn to play
the thing with nonsense syllables if you need to.
Sing those lyrics that you do know.

"And I know, ..."

"Nibblin on ..."

"But there's booze ..."


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com

[ed s]

Post by stolarskin

Post by Lumpy

Post by stolarskin
Have played around with
the intro, and I'll
try and post
what I have so far.
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?
D-A-G is one progression,
but I'm not hearing it,
or maybe I'm not strumming it correctly
or something !

There are only three chords in Margie'ville.
D G A (I IV V) will work fine. The three chords
don't always fall in that order.
Start on D. Play it while you sing the song.
When you sense it's time to change chords, change
to one of the other two chords. If it doesn't sound
right, then the answer is "it's the OTHER chord".
While you're trying to figure out WHICH chords to
play, don't add difficulty by injecting things like
"strum patterns". Just get the chord changes figured out.
The entire VERSE of the song is two chords, the I and V.
The chorus is mostly IV V I.
Get these two hook lines figured out...
***
V                 I
It's my own damn fault
***
IV        V                  I
Wastin' a-way again in Marga-ritaville
***
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com

Chord changes plus trying to sing
the damn thing !
Easy to get mixed up !
Still havin to look at the words written
down unfortunately.- Hide quoted text -
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So what your still learning it ( some people use a TELEPROMTER alll
the time !) - just keep at it - Oh yeah have a few shots of tequila
and relax - chunka chunka for the cords if ya have to - just keep it
going. ed

[Playa]

Hey,

Post by stolarskin
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?

The easiest way for me to play the steel drum intro is in E:

Intro B A E /
V1 E / / / / E7, B / B7 / / E E7
Chorus A B E E7 x2
A B
Some people say that there's a
E B A
Wo - man to blame
B A E / <-- as intro

HTH


Playa

[ed s]

Post by Playa
Hey,

Post by stolarskin
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?

Intro B A E /
V1 E / / / / E7, B / B7 / / E E7
Chorus A B E E7 x2
A           B
Some people say that there's a
E    B      A
Wo - man to blame
B A E / <-- as intro
HTH
   Playa

But I do it in "C"" --?!?!?@!!?!???!??!?!??- e

[stolarskin]

Post by Playa
Hey,

Post by stolarskin
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?

Intro B A E /
V1 E / / / / E7, B / B7 / / E E7
Chorus A B E E7 x2
A B
Some people say that there's a
E B A
Wo - man to blame
B A E / <-- as intro
HTH
Playa

But I do it in "C"" --?!?!?@!!?!???!??!?!??- e


Appreciate replies,
Been really trying to stay
focused on getting this one learned.

[Sean Murphy]

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Post by Playa
Hey,

Post by stolarskin
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?

Intro B A E /
V1 E / / / / E7, B / B7 / / E E7
Chorus A B E E7 x2
A B
Some people say that there's a
E B A
Wo - man to blame
B A E / <-- as intro
HTH
Playa

Appreciate replies,
Been really trying to stay
focused on getting this one learned.

The little garage band I am in does it in A - we start with Warren
Zevon's "Carmelita" and transition straight into Margaritaville so we
call it Carmelitaville. A seems to be the right key for my vocal range
on both, and I too still need a little cheat-sheet for the words even
though I've been a Parrothead for decades!

One question: on the final outro bit, there's a weird little
modification to the root chord (in my case, A) - the equivalent of the
second line of the verse. It goes...I don't know, minor, diminished,
something: I haven't been able to figure it out. Anyone have any ideas
what's going on there?

[ed s]

Post by Sean Murphy

news:07128648-a918-49cd-b068-88d16ce9c203

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Post by Playa
Hey,

Post by stolarskin
Anybody have some suggestions
on some different chords to
explore for this song?

Intro B A E /
V1 E / / / / E7, B / B7 / / E E7
Chorus A B E E7 x2
A B
Some people say that there's a
E B A
Wo - man to blame
B A E / <-- as intro
HTH
Playa

Appreciate replies,
Been really trying to stay
focused on getting this one learned.

The little garage band I am in does it in A - we start with Warren
Zevon's "Carmelita" and transition straight into Margaritaville so we
call it Carmelitaville. A seems to be the right key for my vocal range
on both, and I too still need a little cheat-sheet for the words even
though I've been a Parrothead for decades!
One question: on the final outro bit, there's a weird little
modification to the root chord (in my case, A) - the equivalent of the
second line of the verse. It goes...I don't know, minor, diminished,
something: I haven't been able to figure it out. Anyone have any ideas
what's going on there?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

they found the salt.. e

[Lumpy]

Post by Sean Murphy
One question: on the final outro bit, there's a weird little
modification to the root chord (in my case, A) - the equivalent of the
second line of the verse. It goes...I don't know, minor, diminished,
something: I haven't been able to figure it out. Anyone have any ideas
what's going on there?

Can you post the lyrics of the 2nd line of the
verse you're talking about with the known chords
over the appropriate spots? Use an X or something
to show the chord in question.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com

[IYM]

Post by Lumpy

Post by Sean Murphy
One question: on the final outro bit, there's a weird little
modification to the root chord (in my case, A) - the equivalent of the
second line of the verse. It goes...I don't know, minor, diminished,
something: I haven't been able to figure it out. Anyone have any ideas
what's going on there?

Can you post the lyrics of the 2nd line of the
verse you're talking about with the known chords
over the appropriate spots? Use an X or something
to show the chord in question.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com

Does anyone go to / use AZChords.com for starters? If you do a search there
for Margaritaville, there will be a bunch of options including tabs, chords
and lyrics. Usually, the choice of "Margaritaville chords" instead of
"Margaritaville Tabs" will net you the lyrics and chord changes. Tabs are
what they are and since it's user based, users sometimes will submit the
song in different keys as well, if it's standard tuning, as well let you
know if their arraignment is with or without a capo and on what fret. Found
it a pretty good starting place when figuring out a new song....

IYM

[Lumpy]

Post by IYM
Does anyone go to / use AZChords.com for starters?

Copyright violators do.

Ready to open up the argument again?


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com

[IYM]

Post by Lumpy

Post by IYM
Does anyone go to / use AZChords.com for starters?

Copyright violators do.
Ready to open up the argument again?
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com

Sorry - I'm new here and a beginner player, so don't chew me out. Seems
like a legit web site....I'm guessing based on your statement there's been
some discussion here with regards to it. If it's a legit site, why is it
still up? What is the difference between someone posting here what the
chords are (as was done) and there then? I guess I'll have to Google past
discussions on the subject sometime....

IYM

[Derek]

Sorry -  I'm new here and a beginner player, so don't chew me out.  Seems
like a legit web site....I'm guessing based on your statement there's been
some discussion here with regards to it.  If it's a legit site, why is it
still up?  What is the difference between someone posting here what the
chords are (as was done) and there then?  I guess I'll have to Google past
discussions on the subject sometime....

Yes, copyright infringement gets batted about here quite often. You
should be able to find plenty threads on this topic.

There is a prevailing attitude that some people think they should have
free access to copyrighted material.

There is another attitude (that happens to have the law behind them)
that says you need to pay to access these songs.

As far as legitimacy of the site, the question is two fold. Does the
site contain copyrighted material being used without permission?

Second question is, are they generating advertising revenue from their
site that has copyrighted material being used without permission?

Any site that features such legally will clearly state they have
obtained such.

Some guys will take the attitude that "If there is no enforcement, no
problem." Be careful around guys like that.

If they will steal music, they will steal other things. As musos, I
find it cannibalistic to steal from other musos.

[IYM]

Sorry - I'm new here and a beginner player, so don't chew me out. Seems
like a legit web site....I'm guessing based on your statement there's been
some discussion here with regards to it. If it's a legit site, why is it
still up? What is the difference between someone posting here what the
chords are (as was done) and there then? I guess I'll have to Google past
discussions on the subject sometime....

Yes, copyright infringement gets batted about here quite often. You
should be able to find plenty threads on this topic.

There is a prevailing attitude that some people think they should have
free access to copyrighted material.

There is another attitude (that happens to have the law behind them)
that says you need to pay to access these songs.

As far as legitimacy of the site, the question is two fold. Does the
site contain copyrighted material being used without permission?

Second question is, are they generating advertising revenue from their
site that has copyrighted material being used without permission?

Any site that features such legally will clearly state they have
obtained such.

Some guys will take the attitude that "If there is no enforcement, no
problem." Be careful around guys like that.

If they will steal music, they will steal other things. As musos, I
find it cannibalistic to steal from other musos.


Thanks for the info...As a beginner player and playing only for my own
enjoyment, I used the site to play through a song simply as a fun way to
learn. I'd find a song, play it and when I came across a chord I was
unfamiliar with, it was an opportunity to learn it. It is/was a fun way to
learn and didn't think it infringed any copyright. In fact, it still
doesn't seem like it is as I'm not performing for anyone but myself. If I
was taking that song and sitting out on a sidewalk with a money bucket, then
yes, I could see it. Guess I don't know much in this regard.... What is the
difference than between a site like this, and say a youtube video that
details instructions on how to play that exact song? (i.e. Johnny B. Good -
As I just threw something out I know is in both locations) They both show
you what chords to play and how to play a song. (Actually, the youtube
video is more helpful...)

Again, thanks for the info....very interesting...

IYM

[RichL]

Post by Derek

Sorry - I'm new here and a beginner player, so don't chew me out.
Seems like a legit web site....I'm guessing based on your statement
there's been some discussion here with regards to it. If it's a
legit site, why is it still up? What is the difference between
someone posting here what the chords are (as was done) and there
then? I guess I'll have to Google past discussions on the subject
sometime....

Yes, copyright infringement gets batted about here quite often. You
should be able to find plenty threads on this topic.
There is a prevailing attitude that some people think they should have
free access to copyrighted material.
There is another attitude (that happens to have the law behind them)
that says you need to pay to access these songs.
As far as legitimacy of the site, the question is two fold. Does the
site contain copyrighted material being used without permission?
Second question is, are they generating advertising revenue from their
site that has copyrighted material being used without permission?
Any site that features such legally will clearly state they have
obtained such.
Some guys will take the attitude that "If there is no enforcement, no
problem." Be careful around guys like that.
If they will steal music, they will steal other things. As musos, I
find it cannibalistic to steal from other musos.
Thanks for the info...As a beginner player and playing only for my own
enjoyment, I used the site to play through a song simply as a fun way
to learn. I'd find a song, play it and when I came across a chord I
was unfamiliar with, it was an opportunity to learn it. It is/was a
fun way to learn and didn't think it infringed any copyright. In
fact, it still doesn't seem like it is as I'm not performing for
anyone but myself. If I was taking that song and sitting out on a
sidewalk with a money bucket, then yes, I could see it. Guess I
don't know much in this regard.... What is the difference than
between a site like this, and say a youtube video that details
instructions on how to play that exact song? (i.e. Johnny B. Good -
As I just threw something out I know is in both locations) They both
show you what chords to play and how to play a song. (Actually, the
youtube video is more helpful...)
Again, thanks for the info....very interesting...
IYM

Most YouTube videos of the nature you describe are in violation also.
The creators of such videos are supposed to have paid for use of the
songs that they use.

[Charmed Snark]

Post by IYM

Post by Lumpy

Post by IYM
Does anyone go to / use AZChords.com for starters?

Copyright violators do.
Ready to open up the argument again?
Lumpy

Sorry - I'm new here and a beginner player, so don't chew me out.
Seems like a legit web site....I'm guessing based on your statement
there's been some discussion here with regards to it. If it's a legit
site, why is it still up? What is the difference between someone
posting here what the chords are (as was done) and there then? I
guess I'll have to Google past discussions on the subject sometime....
IYM

Lumpy's just hurt because they didn't accept his
application to perform as a black female prostitute.

I'd suggest skipping that discussion. I'll add that just the fact
that something exists doesn't make it legit -- else you could come
up with arguments that prostitution is legit etc.

Snark.

[Lumpy]

... What is the difference between
someone posting here what the chords are (as was done) and there
then?

Sharing something like
"The chords to the 2nd line of the verse are XYZ"
probably falls under fair use.

Sharing the chords/tabs of the entire song without
permission, as the tab site probably has done,
is not fair use.

And the copyright laws don't differentiate between
sharing for profit or for fun/education/free. Making
money on it or not, if they share without permission,
you're giving away something that they don't rightfully
own.

And as Derek suggests, the idea that musicians would
do that to fellow musicians strikes some (me)
as particularly despicable and unethical.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com