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Cant tune new strings
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BMzxx
2011-11-01 18:30:46 UTC
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Hi,

I put new strings on my acoustic guitar and cant get the G string tuned.
I'm using an Intellitouch PT10 tuner. I keep loosening and tightening the
string and cant find G at all. Also, when I put the low E string on i
tuned it to "E" but the string seemed pretty loose. I made it tighter while
plucking the string and went thru notes until I came to another E note?
Should I make all the strings fairly tight then tune it? still, shat
about finding G

thanks

Beginner Bob
Mark Hicks
2011-11-01 18:35:03 UTC
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Post by BMzxx
Hi,
I put new strings on my acoustic guitar and cant get the G string tuned.
I'm using an Intellitouch PT10 tuner. I keep loosening and tightening the
string and cant find G at all. Also, when I put the low E string on i
tuned it to "E" but the string seemed pretty loose. I made it tighter while
plucking the string and went thru notes until I came to another E note?
Should I make all the strings fairly tight then tune it? still, shat
about finding G
thanks
Beginner Bob
Do you have a friend that plays guitar that could help you? A friend that
lives nearby? That would probably be your best option in this case.
-Mark
Jim
2011-11-01 18:42:48 UTC
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Post by BMzxx
Hi,
I put new strings on my acoustic guitar and cant get the G string tuned.
I'm using an Intellitouch PT10 tuner. I keep loosening and tightening the
string and cant find G at all. Also, when I put the low E string on i
tuned it to "E" but the string seemed pretty loose. I made it tighter while
plucking the string and went thru notes until I came to another E note?
Are you having a problem hitting the right octave? There are some
online guitar tuners that could help. There are many, this is the first
hit I got: http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/utilities/tuner/
Post by BMzxx
Should I make all the strings fairly tight then tune it? still, shat
about finding G
thanks
Beginner Bob
Try tuning to ear at the above link, or similar. Then tune with the tuner.

After you've been playing for a while, you'll be able to get close just
by memory.
Tony Done
2011-11-01 20:42:06 UTC
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Post by BMzxx
Hi,
I put new strings on my acoustic guitar and cant get the G string tuned.
I'm using an Intellitouch PT10 tuner. I keep loosening and tightening the
string and cant find G at all. Also, when I put the low E string on i
tuned it to "E" but the string seemed pretty loose. I made it tighter while
plucking the string and went thru notes until I came to another E note?
Are you having a problem hitting the right octave? There are some
online guitar tuners that could help. There are many, this is the first
hit I got: http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/utilities/tuner/
Post by BMzxx
Should I make all the strings fairly tight then tune it? still, shat
about finding G
thanks
Beginner Bob
Try tuning to ear at the above link, or similar. Then tune with the tuner.

After you've been playing for a while, you'll be able to get close just
by memory.

**************

I think something, like your link, that is akin to old fashioned pitch pipes
that yield a standard tone is a good option. I still use them in my workshop
to get close to pitch for action-checking purposes. Their advantage is that
you can start with the string slack and hunt for the fret that gives the
same pitch, then keep tightening until the open string gives the pitch you
want. I only tune one string like that, then do the rest by ear, followed by
yank and repeat.

Tony D
Nil
2011-11-01 21:16:17 UTC
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Post by BMzxx
I put new strings on my acoustic guitar and cant get the G string
tuned. I'm using an Intellitouch PT10 tuner. I keep loosening
and tightening the string and cant find G at all. Also, when I
put the low E string on i tuned it to "E" but the string seemed
pretty loose. I made it tighter while plucking the string and went
thru notes until I came to another E note? Should I make all the
strings fairly tight then tune it? still, shat about finding G
You need to be able to train your ear to match pitches, and especially
to match octaves. The danger in your case is that you might tune to an
E, but to a higher octave that what it should be, which could break the
string and possibly damage your guitar. This is a case where you should
really have someone show you in person how it's done. In the meantime,
here are a few youtube video that mostly go over the same territory
that might make you more comfortable with the process:










Pt
2011-11-02 01:30:06 UTC
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Hi,
I put new strings on my acoustic guitar and cant get the G string tuned.  
I'm using an Intellitouch PT10 tuner.  I keep loosening and tightening the
string and cant find G at all.   Also,  when I put the low E string on i
tuned it to "E" but the string seemed pretty loose. I made it tighter while
plucking the string and went thru notes until I came to another E note?  
Should I make all the strings fairly tight then tune it?    still, shat
about finding G  
thanks
Beginner Bob
Sounds like you are trying to tune an octave too low.

Pt
Dave M.
2011-11-02 16:23:59 UTC
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Bob,

Do you have a mic hooked up to a computer? If so download a version of the
AudioPhonics tuner. This tuner is easy to set up and quite good.
Now, tune your low E to E2, the A to A2, the D to D3, the G to G3, the B
to B3, and the high E to E4. With new strings you'll need to repeat this
tuning. My guitars settle in with 2 or 3 tunings.
The numbers refer to the octaves on a piano keyboard. The numbers start
at C1 and go up from there.

Dave M.
Pt
2011-11-02 19:06:49 UTC
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Bob,
  Do you have a mic hooked up to a computer? If so download a version of the
AudioPhonics tuner. This tuner is easy to set up and quite good.
  Now, tune your low E to E2, the A to A2, the D to D3, the G to G3, the B
to B3, and the high E to E4. With new strings you'll need to repeat this
tuning. My guitars settle in with 2 or 3 tunings.
   The numbers refer to the octaves on a piano keyboard. The numbers start
at C1 and go up from there.
Dave M.
If you stretch the strings when you install them you won't have to
worry about them settling in.

Pt
Jim
2011-11-02 19:55:33 UTC
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Post by Pt
Post by Dave M.
Bob,
Do you have a mic hooked up to a computer? If so download a version of the
AudioPhonics tuner. This tuner is easy to set up and quite good.
Now, tune your low E to E2, the A to A2, the D to D3, the G to G3, the B
to B3, and the high E to E4. With new strings you'll need to repeat this
tuning. My guitars settle in with 2 or 3 tunings.
The numbers refer to the octaves on a piano keyboard. The numbers start
at C1 and go up from there.
Dave M.
If you stretch the strings when you install them you won't have to
worry about them settling in.
Pt
Also use the locking method at the tuning peg:
http://www.ehow.com/video_2387971_lock-guitar-string-tuning-post.html
Sheldon
2011-11-02 18:28:42 UTC
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Post by BMzxx
Hi,
I put new strings on my acoustic guitar and cant get the G string tuned.
I'm using an Intellitouch PT10 tuner. I keep loosening and tightening the
string and cant find G at all. Also, when I put the low E string on i
tuned it to "E" but the string seemed pretty loose. I made it tighter while
plucking the string and went thru notes until I came to another E note?
Should I make all the strings fairly tight then tune it? still, shat
about finding G
thanks
Beginner Bob
The problems you mention are all too common for the novice player. What you
don't quite understand yet, I think, are "octaves." There are many E's and
G's on a music staff. When you play scales on your guitar you will start
with the "low" E and eventually get to the first string, or high E. That
would be an octave. If you keep climbing up that string you will get to the
next octave -- yet another E at the 12th fret. Most electronic tuners don't
care which E you are tuned to as long as it's an E.

As others have said, if you have a friend who plays guitar that would help.
You can also use the Web tuner recommended by others here or just take the
guitar to your local music store. I'm sure they will be happy to tune it
for you for free. Once tuned it will be easy for you to keep it in tune
using your tuner, and after a little bit of playing you will quickly learn
what the string tension feels like on each string and what they each sound
like. Next time you change strings do it one at a time and bring each
string to pitch before changing the next. That will make it a lot easier.

Also, keep in mind that strings stretch, especially when brand new. When
you put new strings on a guitar and tune them they will quickly go out of
tune and you will have to retune several times to get it right. Also,
tuning one string will affect the rest, especially with brand new strings.
This situation is much worse with nylon strings but settles down quickly.

I don't know why, but the G string is always problematic so your post
doesn't surprise me. Eventually you will learn to "lock" the strings on the
post so they don't slip, which is another common problem with beginners.
There are a lot of Web sites that show you how to do this.

Another problem I've seen is where the strings go into the saddle. The ball
end of the string must be pulled up tight against the bridge pins and
bridge -- inside the guitar. If that ball or ferrule gets hung up inside
the guitar it may slip as you are tuning and that can make your tuning very
erratic.

Anyway, you'll figure it out, and have fun playing.
Pt
2011-11-02 19:10:40 UTC
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 When you play scales on your guitar you will start
with the "low" E and eventually get to the first string, or high E.  That
would be an octave.  
The musical distance between the low E string and the high E string is
2 ocatves, not one.

Pt
Sheldon
2011-11-04 01:24:34 UTC
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Post by Sheldon
When you play scales on your guitar you will start
with the "low" E and eventually get to the first string, or high E. That
would be an octave.
The musical distance between the low E string and the high E string is
2 ocatves, not one.

Pt

You are absolutely correct. My bad. (I had a few drinks before answering
the question.)

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